The Vedas are the oldest books in the world

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By Bard of Ely

The Vedas are believed to be the oldest surviving texts

To answer a question by hubber Stooge, who asks which the oldest books are, I have heard that the Vedas on which the Hindu religion is based are the oldest surviving texts in the world.

I found this information out many years back when I was a member of the Church of Scientology and I remember that L Ron Hubbard says somewhere in his work that he acknowledges and credits the Vedas as the source of a great deal of his inspiration as well as pointing out that they are the oldest books of knowledge we have.

The Sanskrit word véda, which means "knowledge" or "wisdom" is derived from the root vid- "to know" and likewise Scientology is defined as coming from the Latin verb Scio (to know), and is said to be an aim at total knowledge.

The Vedas cover a period of a millennium, spanning the Late Bronze Age and the Iron Age according to Wikipedia's entry.

Sanskrit literature

They are the oldest Sanskrit literature and are divided into the Rig-Veda, the Yajurveda, the Samaveda and the Atharveda.

Although they are said to have been divinely reavealed in India and to have taken place there, author Professor Arysio Nunes dos Santos thinks that they actually refer to Atlantis, which according to his theory was located where the South China Sea is and Indonesia. This would have made ancient India the nearest outpost of the Atlantean civilisation.

Colonel James Churchward claimed that Mu was even more ancient and was "the Motherland." He wrote a series of books on Mu in which are said to be translations from surviving texts as well as symbols used by the people of this original civilisation.

From a personal viewpoint I believe that Mu and Atlantis once existed and it makes sense to me to think that the Vedas would be the oldest books we have that give knowledge from that very ancient time period.

Prof. Santos' theory is explained in full at his website: http://www.atlan.org/ and in his book Atlantis The Lost Continent Finally Found.

Map of Mu by James Churchward

Map showing the Motherland of Mu
Map showing the Motherland of Mu

Hymns from the Vedas

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CJStone 3 years ago

Steve check out the Epic of Gilgamesh, also said by some to be the oldest surviving book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks for that, Chris!

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Chef Jeff 3 years ago

Gee - has it really been so long since I read translations of the Vedas? I'll have to dust them off and give them another read - thanks for reminding me about them, Bard!

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

You're welcome, Jeff!

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Stooge 3 years ago

Bard of Ely, thanks a ton for writing a hub on my request. This is a very well presented hub and answers my question.

I am curious that if civillization started in Africa, then the first words of wisdom should also have come from that land. I am also curious in knowing more about Mu. The few lines above on Mu has increased my curiosity, as I had never heard about it. Can you do a hub on Mu? Thanks again.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

You are welcome, Stooge, and as you can tell I was already interested in the subject so it was an easy question to answer. As it is I had planned a hub about Mu and Atlantis but you'll have to wait a while for it because I have others that I want to do first. Churchward was certain that Mu was the first place where everything started and that's why it was known as "the Motherland."

miniski  3 years ago

i am amazed that there are many people who believe the MITH of atlantis. COME ON PEOPLE!!!!! think... man and his tech were able to find a ship 3 miles beneath the surface of the ocean in the north atlantic20 some years ago. now since we are capable and more tech advanced i think it is safe to say a CONTINENT or other land mass would not pose difficult in finding. POINT BEING there is no hiding the needle in the hay stack these days.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

Seeing as you clearly have so much faith in modern science I would like to draw your attention to the fact that Professor Arysio Nunes dos Santos who is a professor of nuclear physics and he is so convinced of the reality of Atlantis he has written a book on it having spent many years of academic research into the subject and established a much-visited website on Atlantis. The link to his site is in my hub.

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countrywomen 3 years ago

Bard- It is so refreshing to see a westerner consider vedas as the oldest books of knowledge. As usual you have a very unique approach(about woman) and open minded attitude about eastern philosophy.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

Thank you, Countrywomen! As I said, I learned many years back that the Vedas are the oldest books of wisdom we still have and for Hubbard to have acknowledged that as fact meant a lot to me then and now.

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countrywomen 3 years ago

Bard - When we went to LA we went to the museum of scientology and saw the life story of Ron Hubbard. But later read some nasty things about it online. Iam not sure what to make of this church of scientology now. Even I have to read the vedas my grandpa spent his lifetime on those books and told us a few bits here and there. Thanks for the quick response.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

I published a hub about my experiences in Scientology both good and bad here:

http://hubpages.com/_uq6h62db2t97/hub/Bard-of-Elys

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Amanda Severn Level 3 Commenter 3 years ago

Hi Bard,

I'd not heard about the Vedas before, although I have heard of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Wouldn't it be great if we could know what was in those books in the library at Alexandria? It fascinates me that man has both found and lost so much knowledge over the many generations.

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countrywomen 3 years ago

Bard - Will go through your hub about scientology.

Amanda- Vedas are still existing. Vedas can't be destroyed easily as it is passed in a oral tradition (guru shishya parampara) i.e., from a teacher to his students by memory.

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Amanda Severn Level 3 Commenter 3 years ago

Countrywomen,

Yours is an ancient and venerable tradition. India was already civilised when my ancestors were still painting themselves with woad and living in hovels! We in the west have much to learn from you.

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countrywomen 3 years ago

Amanda - Glad to know that you think that way about Indians. We in history have read about britsh viceroy's whose views were that indians were "uncivilized", "uncultured" people. Btw you can seek the wisdom from the eastern philosophy but not from me (Iam way too ignorant about spirituality)...hehe

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Amanda Severn Level 3 Commenter 3 years ago

Countrywomen,

I have had several very good friends whose families originated in India, and I have a great respect for their (and your) take on life.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

Amanda, yes it would be great to know what was in those books!

Countrywomen, the Kogi whom I have recently written about in another hub have their original knowledge passed down by oral tradition too. They are believed to be the only South American tribal people who have kept their culture and knowledge safe since the country was invaded by the Spanish. The Kogi believe they are the Guardians of the Heart of the World.

http://hubpages.com/_uq6h62db2t97/hub/The-Kogi-Gua

Writer Rider 3 years ago

Very interesting hub. I'm also interested in the Mu and am looking forward to reading that hub. I can see how it makes sense that they were the ancestors of the Vedas as migration seemed to have moved Westernly into Europe.

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jamieinenglewood 3 years ago

Great hub I really like it thanks

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

Thank you, Writer Rider and Jamieinenglewood!

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sixtyorso 3 years ago

Very thought provoking hub as usual Steve. I love your grasp of so many fascinating subjects.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

Thank you, sixtyorso! The Bible advises "Seek and ye shall find" and I have been applying that and trying to get answers to the mysteries of life. I have found a huge amount of stuff but I am still seeking!

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sixtyorso 3 years ago

Yes Steve aren't we all!

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dharmathai 3 years ago

The Sumerians too, but i believe the Vedas to be the oldest, and also tell us much about the origins of Humanity and is the base from out of which Buddhism came. The Buddha never denied the exsitence of the three Lords of heaven either (Siwa Brahma Vishnu). I am a student of sanskrit and Pali and am well versed in Hindu mythology. I am in the moment publishing a Thai version of the Ramayana (we call it Ramakian) to show the differences between the original Ramayana epic from Valmiki, and the Thai version, which was created by Royal Kings of Thailand as an adaptation.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 3 years ago

Thank you for your feedback, dharmathai!

Kim Garcia 2 years ago

Wow!! Thank you for posting this hub! I was just studying the Sumerian text...and thought that was the oldest text ever discovered, but this proves my knowledge wrong, and now I'm very intrigued to say the least. Peace ~ K

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 2 years ago

You're welcome, Kim! Thank you for posting!

Satish Mota 23 months ago

If anybody wants to know that how old the vedas are? The Book " ORAYAN" by Bal Gangadhar Tilak and one german scholar ( I forgetted the name) who both were worked very extensively on the astrological signs and situations prevailing at the time of vedas and found that the oldest veda Rigveda is considered to be around 6 to 8000 years old. One who want to know more about it must read the above book.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 23 months ago

Thank you for the info!

Kanni 21 months ago

Hi friends, It is invain to seek the history of vedas because vedas contains the knowledge of 3 worlds viz 1. Cosmological 2. Physical 3. Spiritual. How can u extract human history from these sacred books?

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sujju 20 months ago

Thanks very much for hub the Bard, its very comforting when a westener acknowledges such a fact....good write

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 20 months ago

Thank you, Sujju!

Nithya 18 months ago

Bard, you can get in touch with Dr. Kailas Ashan (he come from a tradition background of the Ashan Family in Kerala, known to be guardians for the Kerala King) who is Psychologist by profession but well versed in Vedas, Buddhism, Christianity, Jainism, Islam, Healing and Marma (Meaning key point or like a pressure point on the body) Chikitsa (Treatment) [Different from Acupuncture] and a whole load of other stuff. He may be in a better position to answer many of your queries if any. You could get in touch with me through linkedin site(Nithyaprasadbala)

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 18 months ago

Thank you for the information, Nithya!

abhishek 17 months ago

Hey How can i contact ashan?because m also from hyderabad india..it would be great if u tell me

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 17 months ago

Nithya has explained how to do so via the linkedin website. Look for Nithyaprasadbala there.

Shani 2 weeks ago

hi bard! the oldest indian text is the stone of ashoka ( is only 2300 years old)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C4%81hm%C4%AB_scri written in brahmi.

this language belongs to dravidian group . (afro-semitic)

if the vedas was composed 6000-8000 years ago so why there no written proof left???? The oldest of them is dated to 1464.ad .only !!!! how come u can find writings in hebrew, russian, german ,latin , persian , earlier than sanskrit???

vedas are great philosophy! but this arian theory was made by british in 18 th is wrong.

just check it out for yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda

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