Hubpages helps pay the bills
87Money is what I came here for
In the beginning, which is now over two years back, I came to hubpages in the hope of making money here. I had been searching on the Internet for ways of making money online and came upon a recommendation for this site.
I thought I would check it out and give it a go to see if I could make money by writing articles. I liked the ease of posting hubs here and also many features the site offers.
I enjoyed the community spirit here at hubpages too, and soon was making friends and also reading some excellent articles by other hubbers. I decided that I really liked hubpages and would become a regular user of the website.
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Time went on and months flew by, and although I had added Amazon and eBay as affiliates that could potentially generate money from ads I was running, and although I had signed up with Google Adsense, I still found that I wasn't earning very much at all.
I read in the forums tips for making money at hubpages from more experienced hubbers. I read that you need to give it time here and also that you need to promote your hubs elsewhere, in fact in as many places as you can.
I began posting links to my hubs on my Facebook site, on Twitter, on blogger and on other social-networking websites, as well as on forums and saw the traffic increase immediately. Earnings were still not really happening though, but hubbers told me that it all takes time here. Patience is a virtue I am blessed with.
Fortunately, I had become addicted to hubpages and had praised the site so much that several friends, including CJ Stone and Mistyhorizon2003, had also joined and I was sticking around and posting hubs anyway whether I was earning money or not.
I saw hubpages as an excellent place to showcase my writings and to write about whatever I wanted. As a journalist I already had many articles that had been previously published in newspapers and magazines but had not been published on the Internet, so I decided to publish them as hubs too, as well as new original writings.
After a year, I finally got my first payment from Google. It wasn't a lot by many people's standards but it was exciting and proved that all the hubbers, who had said you need to persevere and that it can take as long as a year before you get results were right.
It gave me an incentive to look at this place again as a site to make money on, and not just a place to enjoy and to post my writings on. It had given me evidence of the reason I had originally come here as being valid. You really can earn money at hubpages and I had done so.
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Money
Tips to improve your money-making potential
Marisa Wright was the most helpful hubber to me in pointing out what I need to do to help improve the potential money-making power of my hubs. She even wrote an entire hub about it which I have included a link to below.
I have always prided myself on being a knowledgeable and talented writer, and the feedback I get supports this idea, but what Marisa pointed out to me was that it wasn't my writing or even my subject matter that was at fault but my layout.
Marisa explained that putting photos and videos at the beginning of a hub is a very bad move because that is a prime site for advertising. I had been wrongly thinking that a video or a photo looked good there, and so it does, but it does not help you make money.
Unfortunately I realised that nearly all of my hubs had videos to start and photos alongside what was often only one text box. Marisa explained that you should have more that one text box to increase the adverts being placed at the top of the page.
She also explained that having links to outside sites all through the text was not a good idea because people can click on them and leave your hub and maybe not come back. I hadn't thought of it that way but again could see the sense in what she was telling me.
Bearing all these tips in mind I began going through my hubs making changes for the better. I always remember Marisa's advice now when I put a hub together.
Misha told me my hubs needed Search Engine Optimization or SEO as it is commonly known. He also suggested that I would possibly stand to earn more from more popular subjects about stuff people want to buy than writing about some conspiracy theory or rare plant. I now try to do a far greater mixture of subjects for my hubs because it seems a logical move if I want to make money with my writings.
Sufidreamer encouraged me by telling me that he makes a living as an online freelancer and thought I could do so too. He knew that I needed to find a way to make more money and was doing what he could to raise my hopes about doing so.
Various other very successful hubbers here have inspired me in various ways by seeing what they have achieved in making money and in their popularity. In the list of links below I have included a few of the people who have directly or indirectly motivated me to keep on trying at improving my earning potential here.
Every time I read of fellow hubbers' achievements or I see hubbers who are able to maintain a score of 100 it inspires me to carry on with my efforts at making money at hubpages.
I found that entering hub challenges is well worth doing too to see both your score and traffic go up. I have completed the 30 hubs in 30 days hub challenge twice now.
Recently, Ohma, told me about the hub-trails project here too and I have added a lot of my travel hubs to this. I have hubs on Tenerife and on Cardiff and Wales that fall into the hub-trails category and because they can now get more Internet traffic they could make money as well.
I have just joined the Seekyt site too, as recommended by howtoguru, where I have been writing and submitting trailer feeds for links to my hubs.
I have a long way to go to become a high earner here but am on the way and I now often get around €100 payment from Google and have had over €50 from eBay. Obviously I can't live on these sums but they really do help to pay my bills and the only way is up.
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Thanks for posting, UW! And good luck with your hubbing!
Thank you for the information.
Thanks for sharing my experience here
I came to HubPages for the same reason. Soon found out that the community in HP is really fun, active and helpful. Experienced hubbers are so willing to share their knowledge. Besides making some money here, I am also having fun. Kudos HP. And thanks for sharing your experience, Bard.
Glad to see that you're doing great Bard of Ely. I agree, the payouts are not enough to live by but then again, who knows? Maybe this Christmas, I'll see you posting a much (much!) higher earnings here. Anything's possible, right? Good luck. :)
Bard of Ely, your Hub is encouraging. This is another affirmation that "sweat equity", a love for writing, and a respect for readers are a recipe for success on HP. Write On!
Thank you for your comments, Sarmack, Trsmd, jasonycc, Emievil and LillyGrillzit!
I must admit the Hubpages have help me a lot to fill the gaps, The biggest one that I spent it with is it paid my daughter and myself entry pass to the Movie World and Dream World during our Gold Coast Holiday.
That is great news, MM! Thank you for posting too!
Blessings, Namaste' and Deeksha to you dearest Bard!!
Thank you so very much for writing this no nonsense Hub!! Plainly spoken, no hype or fluff with your authentic voice sharing true experiences!! Thank you!!
You are a treasure to read and to get to know!! I am proud to follow in your footsteps!!
Blessings always, Earth Angel!!
Thank you, Earth Angel! Namaste!
Bard, good info, thank you!
Thank YOU, Jiberish!
Yes very good information. I hope you continue to succeed and reach your monetary goals. All the best, cheers.
Hello Bard, thanx for the money-making info, maybe it won't be two years until I get my first $5 check because of all the excellent info shared by yourself and other hubbers. I love this place...
Thanks, Saddlerider and KKalmes!
Well, good luck and keep on hubbing!
Yes it is a big learning curve and I am still climbing it lol
Good luck with your "climbing" Ethel!
Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome! Thanks for posting!
I've always enjoyed your writing and musicianship, Bard, and find this hub quite telling. You are a writer willing and happy to share your inspirations and muses!
Wonderful teachers make wonderful students.
Congratulations on your success.
Thank you, Lorlie6!
Great hub Bard, inspirational for those like me who have only just begun! I appreciate the links to other hubs on similiar topics and have bookmarked this for future reference. I'm still enjoying the thrill of seeing my written word on the internet but intend to get serious about earning money in the long term. I know this hub will help. Many thanks.
Good luck, Karanda!
Thanks for sharing your experience, great tips to help us.
Thank you, Research Analyst!
Well done for sticking at it! It took a very long time to get my first google cheque too, and I'm still waiting to get enough for a second, but you're proof positive that it pays to persevere.
Thanks, Amanda! Perseverance is my middle name! lol
Hi Bard.. great to see a positive and realistic hub. I always enjoy what you have to say and delighted to be following you. You have grown and continue to do so. I will never forget that you had made me feel so welcome when I joined. Let me take this opportunity to thank you for your heartfelt ways x
Thank you too, Shazwellyn!
Great information! I'll be writing lots more hubs since I just lost my job.
Really excellent Hub Steve, and thanks for the link to my profile too. I am at the stage of a payout every second month right now and by my reckoning I have been on Hubpages 2 years and 4 months, but I don't write constantly as you know, (summer I am vegetable growing and that takes up most of my time). Happily hubpages is a great place to be and I am content plodding along and hoping my payouts creep up bit by bit. Thanks for the tip on the "hub-trails" too, I didn't know about this and have hubs that would probably be suitable I am guessing.
Glad you stuck around. One thing few people don't know is traffic peaks on average to a hub nearly three years after it's been published, so you should continue to see earnings grow faster now as you add new Hubs. The next 100 comes much more quickly:)
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for posting, Wendy, Cindy and Paul!
Wendy, good luck!
Cindy, yes, I am sure you have hubs that would fit the hub-trail project. If they are related specifically to places and of interest to travellers they would but have a look at the details. I have put my Wales and a lot of Tenerife ones in it.
Thank you for the advice, Paul!
It's really nice to read such an encouraging message about writing on HP. So true, it takes time, and the rewards will be there if we keep working at it. "...the only way is up"...what a great motto! Thanks so much for sharing your experiences.
Thank you for posting, Sally's Trove!
Thank you for that hub. being very new to HP( I've been on here for 5days and not 3months as it says on my profile) not sure where that came from. I am also from Wales and I'm thoroughly enjoying HP. Thanks again for your hub.
I posted the above comment without signing in. Hence no photo. I am getting to grips with it slowly.Diolch yn fawr.
Diolch yn fawr i ti! Twice! lol Good luck hubbing!
Thanks for the mention Steve. With all the work you put in here you should be doing more than just paying the bills, but I guess it's better than nothing. Onward and upward!
Thanks, Chris! Today's problems I have been through and stress have been phenomenal and part of it will get written up here! Watch this space as they say! And you know what, I am even more determined to make a lot of money! In the words of The Beatles hit: "Money don't get everything it's true but what it don't get, I can't use, I want money..."
Thanks for the tips. I get next to nothing from hubpages but have not researched the subject at all. I have heard of posting on other sites and putting a link back to hubpages but have not tried it yet. I have not heard of trailing before so thanks for that also. I especially like the idea of adding a second text. That makes good sense and is easy to do. I like that better than eliminating pictures. I will compromise between the two. Great hub and thnanks for the links to additional info.
The idea is to produce a layout that maximises adverts at the top of the page rather than down the bottom so two or three or more text boxes can be used. Photos can be made a quarter of the size and the slideshow option so viewers can see them as they should be can be used. The more sites you post your hub links on the more people are likely to see them. Good luck and thanks for posting!
Including a news module is helpful too.
Thanks for the clarification. I'll change the location of my photos and see what happens.
Don't expect massive results quickly. It all takes time on here and you have to work at it! Remember that it doesn't matter how brilliant a hub is if no one sees it so you need traffic!
I also think posting at other blog sites and putting a link to your hubs is an effective policy, as you say. Maybe an affordable article submitting service would be easy and effective. SEO with long tail key words that get, I think it is between 5,000 and 14,000 searches a day,so you rank high on the page because there is less competition, is possibly effective. I've been meaning to do all these things but I am elderly and tire easily. Crumby excuse, right? lol
I don't know anything about article submitting services so can't comment!
Great hub and very informative, just been through a three days sales training in course of my work and this hub is more informative than that,
Yes I love hubpages to and I'm also addicted to writing this is a great hub to read. I'm just struggling with bringing in followers. I'm making some ok money but yes patience is everything. Great things come to those who wait.
Thanks for posting, Saket71 and caninecrtitics
Hey! This is a neat little article, full of hope and needful tips. Thanks. I'll take your advice here.
Thank you, James, for your comments!
wow! very informative hub, I like it.
Thank you, Nikitha!
I've made a little bit here, but it is hard to find the balance between writing about what interests me most and writing copy to attract readers just for affiliate marketing clicks. I still hope to find that balance while still offering myself a chance to write something that interests me. Good luck in your own online writing ventures.
Mike
I know what you mean Mike! Thanks for posting!
I'm glad that you are doing better. Once I learned about backlinks I started getting more views, and earning more money. I don't bother with twitter or facebook since those readers seem to be more interested in the social scene than in buying anything. My favorite for backlinks is Xomba and their share of Adsense is generous.
This article was really helpfull! It is a great compilation of good tips. Thanks :)
Thank you for the tip, Wife Who Saves, and thanks EmKay for posting too!
Planning on retirement in two years or so, I guess I came at the right time to the site, to supply me with a pension by then. This is a very useful hub, Bard and I appreciate the tips. Thank you.
Thank you for posting, Equealla!
This is a very encouraging hub. We have been around a while (in life as well as on HubPages) and are still looking for advice and guidance.
Well, I hope you find some useful advice and tips here. Than you for posting, 2patricias!
Great hub - I don't really want to make a living on HubPages, but a little extra cash certainly won't hurt. Good advice!
Make money great article Your hub page great information to earn money in internet thanks for sharing
Thank you, WillGrander and KingKhan78!
Thanks for the encourageing words! It is always nice to read how someone else had patience and it is working for them. It makes the waiting more tollerable.
Thank you for posting!
Bard of Ely, This is a great article, I hung on your every word as it really hits home. Glad to hear your moving up in your acheivements and send you much positive thought and energy. Thanks for the tips, I learned a thing or two. Marissa is a person I've learned much from as well, never heard of guru but will def check them out. Peace :)
Thank you, Katiem2!
Thank you very much
Great to hear you're sticking with it! It's motivating for a new hubber such as myself!
Thanks for posting, Roni2010 and Dr Squiggles!
Good to hear yer bills are getting paid, enjoyed yer hub !
Thank you, TattooGuy!
Yay, Bard, I'm so glad to hear your Hubs are working for you and that my advice helped a bit!
Thank you, Marisa! I am still learning but am on the way up and you are one of the people who helped me!
Glad you wrote this and I enjoyed reading it. It's taken me two years to feel like I've finally figured out Adsense. I've only made 36 cents from Amazon back in Feb. I've written more product-oriented Hubs but still no sale from Amazon despite traffic. I'm also looking at turning some of my Hubs in to e-books.
I just wanted to thank you for sharing the info on here with us !
I actually went through a few of my hubs the other day to edit the pictures at the top , so there are more adverts displayed. I have noticed today that my earnings have gone up ! I still have to edit a lot of them - but your advice rings true.
Like you I came here to earn cash , and so far have had 2 adsense cheques and sold some amazon products. It's great to see another expat trying to make a living on the web:)
hiu bard, thanjs for sharing.
my thoughts on reading this is that it is both a story of triumph, and sincere congratulations on what you've achieved, and a bit of a sad story too. So much effort and time for comparatively little reward. There's gotta be a better way one is tempted to think, because apparently the writers poring in their time and their souls, aren't making very much.
kindly correct my typos on the above comment if you can thanks Bard, its annoying me i cant go in and do a quick edit
Thanks for your posts, Don, Writer83 and Kevin! Kevin, I cannot edit comments but yes, it is a lot of effort for very little financial reward although in my life that is a norm!
do you build your own web sites too Bard and promote them ?
Great advice - just when I thought I knew what I was doing. I have a number of websites that bring in $500-$2000, depending on the month (summer is terrible for my sales) - but didn't know 1/2 of the ways you listed here to make an income on HP.
The other benefit is, even if it's only $200 or so a month - my goodness, for just a few hours of work? Perpetually?
Sign me up! Great tips, Bard!
Just wanted to remark what an informative Hub this was to read. I'm still new at this on HP, I make websites and do freelancing SEO gigs for a sizable sum for most of my money.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for your comments, Kevin, Robin and SEOshortcuts!
Kevin, no I gave up on creating my own sites as I found it too hard to get decent traffic for them. Some 10 years back I had a wonderful bardofely.com website that a lot of work went into but it simply did not get the traffic I needed. Hubpages automatically gets you this.
Nice hub and good for information. I am glad to know your passion in hubpages. So do I, my friend. I get my first check after a year. With hard work, finally I get an income from writing. I love hubpages. This give me a new spirit to write and write. Thank for share your experience. Vote this up.
Prasetio
Rated up. I have a similar experience as yours and have found that following advice and tips from the accomplished hubbers helped me tremendously. Plus i stii learn something new everyday as i go along.
Great article Bard.
Cheers
Thank you, Prasetio and Viryabo!
Thanks Bard, I had not heard about the hubtrails guide. Every bit of information helps, thanks for the info. Voted you up!
Thank you too, Adrienne!
Hi Bard of Ely
I have read a few of your hubs and really like the way you write, I haven't earned any money here yet, I am a relatively new member, but, as you stated patience is indeed a virtue' and I have now also become addicted to the hubpages format and community, money will be a bonus. Your advise here is appreciated. Thankyou
Search Engine Optimization ... what does this do and how we proceed with this. Pls help.
Good luck Ross, and thanks! Preety Girl, I recommend reading Misha's hubs for advice on SEO and many other tips so that is why I included him in the links above. This is what Wikipedia says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimiz
Hi Bard. This is such a great hub with lots of good pointers. I think as hubs mature, there will be more traffic and values to them. Here's to more of your success.:) Hub up.
Thank you hubpageswriter!
I remember a time in the forums when you were very discouraged. Glad you stuck it out.
Thank you, rmcrayne!
wooow i have to learn with you about how ... my hub just 2, and it's so bad :)
Well, good luck, and thanks for posting!
Great hub> Keep the good info coming
Thank you,dkrainwater!
I like your style. I wonder if you are from Cardiff? Anyway, I am your newest follower. Thanks
Yes, Ely in Cardiff, hence the title! Thank you for your comments!
It's good to hear HubPages is working for you - and I hope it just improves and improves (your earnings) - keep it up.
Thank you, Teresa!
Great to hear you are making money on hubpages. I remember when you were close to returning home. Keep on hubbing.
Well, I don't know what you are on about there, SeanorJohn, because I have never said anything about wanting to go back to Wales so not sure where you got that impression, but thank you for posting!
I suspect seanorjohn means when you had that period of not enough money to keep you in Tenerife for more than another couple of months, and not sufficient income from outside writing work. It was when you were also worried that if this meant you had to leave Tenerife what would happen to "Tiggy" as she wouldn't have a pet passport and would have had to go into quarantine if you took her with you.
Yes, that's what I was recalling. you got me worried there Bard. I am increasingly questioning my powers of recall.
Thanks for explaining, Cindy! My apologies to seanorjohn for not understanding! I never had any intention of leaving so that is why I hadn't realised that others might have got that impression. Having said that my life is incredibly complex and I have family ties and many of my best friends in the UK so feel a lot like the situation described in Neil Diamond's I Am I Said, which I have rewritten to change "LA's fine but it ain't home" to Tenerife's fine... and instead of "I'm New York city born and raised" I sing I'm Cardiff City...
And I had a wonderful offer to go and live and work in Dubai earlier this year which I turned down but it's there as another pull on me and possibility!
I'm glad it works out for someone! I find it hard to earn much from Hubpages. I mean I get few clicks on adsense, but thats pennies.
Well good luck with your future efforts here, and thanks for posting!
Hey Steve - Congrats on the high score. I must say, don't be afraid of writing about niches - the highest hubpage I've had is mine on the US farm bill. Right now at Squidoo (where I usually write, but I'm looking to return to Hubpages) my highest ranked page is Ursula the Sea Witch (from Disney's Little Mermaid). I hope its not blasphemy to link to Squidoo from here (I know lots of people active at both sites), but here is my affiliate marketing history page http://www.squidoo.com/affiliate-mom .
Thank you for your feedback, lschofield!
Thanks for sharing your experiences here on HubPages. I'm pretty new here, with only 12 articles so far, but I have ideas for more.
HubPages is a great place to write and meet others--I've enjoyed being here!
This is an excellent hub with great advice! Thanks again!
Thank you, Successful Living! Good luck with your hubbing!
Actually one thing I have found from selling my art and designs on Zazzle and other POD sites is sometimes subjects which are a little unusual or off beat are paradoxically often more popular than more mainstream subjects. This is mainly because subject matter which is more obscure presents less competition so provides a niche market. OTOH the market for more conventional mainstream subject matter is already well catered for, in which case it can be more difficult to get noticed.
Although art/design and writing are different disciplines I would argue in terms of Internet marketing and search engine optimization similar rules apply because at the end of the day most things are found based on key words.
So I'm not sure I entirely agree with your friend Misha that "writing about some conspiracy theory or rare plant" is a bad idea because it stands to reason it's easier to be a big fish in a small Pond than it is in an Ocean :) That said I think there are advantages in creating a broad mix of things because whilst people may find one's work through a more obscure avenue they may actually buy something which is more conventional, so the more variety one has the better :)
All this is very enlightening. I had no idea that One could make money posting articles on Hubpages until I posted an article. HP was just one of the sites suggested so I can, hopefully get links back to my site. I am new at article writing and feeling my way. I hope my articles will improve with time and experience. I am truly enjoying you Hubs and will be back to see what else you have written about. So please keep writing.
Thank you, Jena, and good luck here!
That's a very helpful article. I make a pretty decent living from affiliate marketing and have just started writing on hubpages because i really enjoy writing. Also who doesn't like money. Thanks for the hub. Useful. Bookmarked and Following.
Thank you, Tyrillis!
Thanks to your tip about not putting photos or videos at the top of a Hub, I've just spent the morning editing all mine to change their layout. I hadn't thought of that, so thanks Steve.
Adele, you are welcome! I made the same mistake too thinking my hubs looked better that way and had to go through all of mine moving the photos and videos.
Thank you for sharing your story and letting us know that it is possible to make some money on the internet.
Great information provided in your hub, thanks a lot!
Thank you for posting, lovepearls!
Your story incentivates me to keep writing...I think pacience and constant writing is the key to success in this.
Thanks for this hub =)
Patience and a lot of work are definitely needed, Sadako! I would agree!
yes there is a lot of help around here, and great you got a payment, that is a big pickme up isn't it? Good work, and I'll have to go back to Misha and look his hubs up... thanks for the new hubber to read. You are a blessing around here as well.
Thank you, Rebecca! I agree payments are definitely a "pickmeup!"
A great article for beginners like me, thanks and keep up the good work.
I definitely can learn something from your article and apply it to my hubs. Thank You for writing this article.
Thanks for posting, freetowrite and Affinity!
HUBS LIKE YOURS MAKES MAKING MONEY ON THE HUB PAGES COME A LITTLE CLOSER.I am not there yet but I am closing in the gap.I too have patience and I keep improving my writings.By the time I make money I will be able to correct all my writing mistakes.But the important thing of all I find it the most fun of all!!!!!
Good luck with your hubbing, Dream On!
So hard to figure out when to write what you know vs write what pays.
Why not write both? I do!
Thanks for sharing this. Very inspirational to anyone who's thinking of giving up.
All the best to you Bard!
Thank you, PR_am!
Thanks so much for motivating me, I was thinking of giving up before reading your article. Thanks
Thank you for being so honest.
As the bordello sweeper said, "All this and they pay me, too!" A great, honest and giving article, bro...Bob
Thank you, MyJesus49, A Dane in Spain and Bob!
Can't thank you enough. I am very new at this but I am really enjoying the spirit of hubpages. I am a patient person but it helps to know that my patience will pay off one day. Great information!
Thank you for posting, Dee! Good luck here!
I was motivated to write at HubPages by my daughters after I retired from government service. It was to fill up my inaction and its perceived concomitant boredom. So I started, very patiently.
Although I'm not posting quantity hubs, I'm glad that I have loved the site along with friends who leave comments. I enjoy checking my account, although it will take a lot more effort, I believe I'm closer now to earning, too. What you do is what you get, I know I need to learn how to make more money from this hub. Thank you for sharing this.
Thank you for your comments, Lita! Good luck hubbing!
I am a newbie and this article gave me some good tips. Thank you Bard of Ely for informative writing. I hope that in one year time I will have at least 100 hubs.
Thank you, Rolichius! Keep on hubbing and good luck!
I am a newbie as well and this article gave me some good tips. I hope that in time I will have at least 100 hubs.Keep on hubbing and good luck. Thank you for sharing this.
Hey Bard... that was a really nice encouraging hub for all us newbies. I've been on for about a month writing like a lunatic, but I haven't really been too careful about format or SEO or even topics. Just lovely to write so much. However I think it's time I started to heed some of this good advice. Great links on here too. Good stuff!
Thank you, Louisxfourie and Tom!
Tom, it is really important to pay attention to this other stuff beacuse good writing is not enough. As my good friend CJ Stone who is a professional writer and author recently posted on a hub of his own it took him 2 years to get his first cheque from Google and yet he gets loads of great comments here and off line he has books out and has written for well known newspapers and magazines. In other words his writing is top quality but he hasn't spent time on all the other stuff the top earners here use. Until Marisa Wright told me the tip about not putting videos and pictures to start a hub I had all of mine laid out badly. The reason some people make money here and others don't is because some know how to do these things and spend time on layout, SEO, back linking etc and the others don't.
Wow, you have a huge number of followers and hubs written. You must really like writing, only way I can see how you've been patient so long!
Vaalion, I do like writing but I am patient anyway - in my life I have had to be! lol
I found your hub very helpful thank you for the info!
I am glad to hear it, Tom!
Very Informative hub Bard of Ely, Thanks for sharing all these informations and your experience with us. Hubpages is really a very good place to stay for long. Still I havn't took Hub challange, planning to take it soon.
Good luck with Hub Challenge!
Good Luck Karanda. I am new here. Hope this article helps me earn some money :)
I hope so too!
In my case I don't rely on hubpages very much.
I've been here for about seven months and haven't made any money yet. I was just about to give up until I read your hub. I didn't realize that part of my problem might be my pictures. Thanks for the advice, it was well appreciated!
Great Inspiration I got from your hub,me also thought the same that by photos and videos I can increase my earning but from now i will concentrate on writings.
thankyou for your great hub as I am struggling on making anything really ...am goin to go over your points thank you :-)
Thank you for posting, BobbiRant, DeerWhisperer, manmade76 and Dotty1! Good luck here!
Thank you for the information. You have certainly helped many of us shorten the learning curve.
I hope I have! Thank you for saying so!
Thanks for the great info and the encouragement. I joined seekyt through your link, thanks for the tip.
Thank you, Alison!
Excellent motivation!!! You have provided some great information, along with your own personal story It really ties it all together, and shows that it really can work, you just have to work at it!
This is a very interesting post. Thank you for sharing it.
Just when you think, "I don't want to write today," an article such as this fills the motivation tank back up.
Good stuff.
It used to be that a writer wrote out of passion and not by the dictates of his gastric juices, and society took care of them well.I can imagine how "market trends" impinges on your creativity as an artist/writer. Thanks for sharing. I too, have had to contend with this reality.Good luck to all of us!
It's good to know that Hubpages can help pay the bill. Not only that you enjoy expressing yourselves but it also helps you to have money from it.
Thanks for your comments, Anna, motorola, archbishop, Grace and xboxliveforxbox!
I am yet to experience this as am new and would want to be like as you said it. thanks
Good luck here, Esanubi!
These are fantastic tips, thanks for writing this hub! :)
Thank you!
nice article, thanks for sharing!
Thank you, map65
Thanks for the hub BoE and the reminder about seekyt - I signe dup a while back but forgot all about them !
Thanks for posting! Good luck!
Great hub Bard! I know exactly what you mean. I am so thankful for hubpages.
Thanks for your comment, Adrienne!
hey thanks for the tips. this is the best hubpage ive seen on the topic!
Thank you, molson5070! I hope it helps!
You've got the right attitude about it to make make money and have fun and did a great job explaining this for people. It takes awhile to find the balance. To much emphasis on money and you might not have any fun and just get burnt out. Too much emphasis just on having fun and you won't end up making any money. Once you find that balance though, it feels really good. Especially when you get those checks that pay your electricity, gas and phone bills :-)
You are right there, Jason! Thank you!
I have worked at making money with various writing and website ideas, but making money via advertising is definitely hard. Good hub Bard!
Yes good hub - thumbs up - thanks for the useful info
Great Hub. Very Informative for newbie. Voted up :)
Great hub. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for your comments, Surfergirl, Bloggify, Triosol and eculligan!
Thats a great hub.
It inspired me a lot.
Thanks Bard!
I am glad you found it useful, Silent Writer!
Hey Bard,
Great tips on Hubpages!
Take Care,
Jim
Somehow my message was left twice so I deleted it to leave you this message.
OK, thank you!
Good hub, Bard.
I am glad to hear that things are improving for you in the area of earnings.
I agree about the advice not to include links in the body of your article. I usually follow this recommendation, but sometimes I deviate from it. I have a recent article that I feel is necessary to include outside links. However, I didn't insert them in the first third of the article. This gives a view "above the fold" of only text, plus Adsense ads. I think it could be a good strategy to use once in a while on an experimental hub -- meaning one which is destined to have short-term interest. The exposure is good, if nothing else.
I wish there were a magic formula to increase traffic and clicks, but I know better.
Good luck and continuing success here.
Thank you, Gracenotes! I have recently found out it is not a good idea to accept most hubkarma links suggestions either and am in the process of removing them.
I have been looking for any information on the amount of traffic. I am curious to know how many hubs you had when you got your first check? I am wondering how much I will have to write to make money. I also want to know if you remember how many clicks you received during the beginning.
It must have been over 100 hubs but no idea about number of clicks!
Hiya Bard
Now following you because, as a newbie, I can actually understand what you are talking about. I particularly enjoyed 'Hubpages pays the bills' as it stated in simple terms what to do to make money on Hubpages - eventually. And much as I love writing I need to make money too, so I'm in it for the long haul.
Lechid da!
Angie
Thanks for posting, Angie! Good luck hubbing!
its great to see you all guru's here. hope I will be supported
Thank you for your comment!
Nice tale. Just so u know, Am comin' after thee...& it must work here on hubpages!
Good luck hubbing, Emmyboy!
Wow terrific information, thank you it will help me so much.
I hope it does so I wish you good luck with your hubbing!
Some people have called hub pages a 'write for free' website since they were frustrated that they didn't really make any money with it.
its not true, such people are just judging by their own experience.
Yes, I agree! Thank you!
Thanks, Bard of Ely!!!My father has the name Ely. Glad you pointed out about 'links'. I might as well refrain from using such tool in order to focus more on my writing.
Thank you for your comments, Romano!
Thanks for the article .. hadnt heard of hub trails before cool deal.
Thank you for your comments!
Very helpful. I guess I have to modify my hubs ;)
I am glad my hub is of some help to you!
Hello Bard:
Really enjoyed your hub in reference to earnings on hubpages. A lot of great information. I know that I myself, being here just five months now, have not made a ton of money either. But know that patience is real important when writing for this site. And eventually the money will flow. But more importantly is, that if you really enjoy writing like I do and know that you certainly do. Than this is the place for us and fellow hubbers alike, regardless of what we are currently earning. The sky is the limit as you also mentioned. Again thanks for sharing this great article with all of us that I voted very useful and found interesting tips within as well.
I am glad you liked my hub and good luck with yours!
This is a very good hub. I see "lots" of shitty comments form persons who've joined and produced something or another, and then quickly got disappointed.
I suppose such persons have no real idea what the word "work" means.
The thing about the layout - it's mind blowing, isn't it? I'd have never known about it without someone telling me either. I could have lived a thousand years before realizing that pictures or videos do NOT go at the top right of the text that should be the first capsule.
My newest idea for increasing earnings here is that I should increase my "authority" in the niche topics that I write about. I've really already got too many niche topics or subjects going, but I'm going to concentrate on the topics that I seem to best score with so far as Google traffic.
I've never seen my author score be as high as yours always is. I got to 97 for about half a day once. I just can't seem to commit myself to . . . well, anything really.
Best of luck to us all.
Hello Wesman! I often think it really does come down to how much work you put in and a lot of people expect too much for nothing! Thank you for your comments!
You are very welcome, Sir. I must compliment you one your ability to be very interesting. I still really like the video with the "space ship" that you published a month or so ago.
That was pretty creative - I get tired really quickly. . . .of being able to predict what someone will say or do.
Cheers for your day!
Thanks again! Yes, a lot of people enjoy that song and performance!
A good read Bard and thank you for all the great information and tips, an excellent support.
Thank you, Maria! Good luck here!
Nice hub, I haven't made much either, but I'm still working on it, good luck to you.
Thank you and good luck back!
these were some very good ideas. ty
Thanks for commenting!
yeah im hoping hubpages will pay my bills!
Good luck!
Just started but can see how I can make my hubs better just from your article. Will also check out some of those that helped you. Thanks
You are welcome! Good luck!
great advice. i'm just starting out and this helps so much.
Thankyou Bard, I too am starting out. Living the dream...is little steps, and it's great experienced writers share their knowledge! Love and Light to you!
Thanks for your comments, dmdiaz and dodsy! Good luck hubbing!
Hi Bard, It has been a long time since reading one of your articles. Your hub on how HP helps pay the bills is an excellent article. I for one, is thankful for HP, and so glad I have stuck around here, and learned how to earn on HP, and still learning how to build my earning.
I have not heard of Seekyt, and on my way to checking out this site to see how I can build more traffic to my hubs from using this social networking site. Thanks for the info! Voted up!!
Thanks, Adrienne! I don't bother with Seekyt now as it changed...not sure what it's like now. This hub is old and reflected what I was doing then.
Uninvited Writer Level 4 Commenter 18 months ago
Glad to hear it is helping. I just got my hours cut at work so I'll be relying more on HubPages to fill in the gaps...