How to get the book you wrote published

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By Bard of Ely

An individual angle

When I set out originally to write and get the book I had written published I knew that competition is fierce and that publishers could ask what is so special about your work then? I knew an individual angle would help me get a deal and I was proved right so am passing this on as advice.

I decided my book, which was eventually published as Herbs of the Northern Shaman , would have the fact that all plants covered in it were ones that grow somewhere in the northern hemisphere.

I knew there were plenty of titles about entheogens and specific mind-altering herbs but none that only dealt with plants from a specific area of the world. My book would include the UK, Europe, Russia, northern parts of Asia, China and the USA.

Herbs of the Northern Shaman on Amazon

Herbs of the Northern Shaman: A Guide to Mind-Altering Plants of the Northern Hemisphere
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Herbs of the Northern Shaman
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Herbs of the Northern Shaman photo

Herbs of the Northern Shaman cover
Herbs of the Northern Shaman cover
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Finding a publisher

Finding a publisher, unless you opt for self-publishing on lulu.com or elsewhere, is perhaps as much of a task as writing the book. I spent around two years mailing off to publishers in London.

Rejection after rejection followed but many with encouraging comments praising my research and work.

A part of the problem was that I had read it was not thought of as good etiquette when seeking a publisher to approach more than one at the same time so this meant I had to wait for a publisher to get back to me before I could send to another.

Finally I got a letter back from Louise McNamara, who was an editor at Thorsons Books, and she asked me to come in and see her in person because she was interested in my work.

I had found Louise and tried Thorsons after discovering that she had worked with rock star turned author of books on ancient sites, Julian Cope. I thought she might be the right person to contact, especially seeing as I was involved in music myself as a singer-songwriter and, as a Quest Knight of the Loyal Arthurian Warband, was part of a druid order, and so attended Avebury, Stonehenge and other sites on a regular basis.

My hunch paid off to the degree I got an appointment to go in and see Louise in her office in London. We got on very well and I was feeling really hopeful after she said to leave it with her and that she would do her best to get my book accepted.

I felt like my journey from Cardiff to London had been well worthwhile and that it looked as if I was going to get a deal for my work at last.

Sadly, a week or so later I got a letter from Louise saying that despite her efforts her colleagues had not wanted to go ahead with publishing my book but to keep in touch with any future ideas.

After that I thought, I would broaden my field having tried most of the UK potential publishers. I decided to try America.

I researched publishers that might be more likely to accept my work and in just a couple of weeks found success when Loompanics Unlimited agreed to publish my book.

A point to bear in mind here is that just because no publisher in your own country is interested does not mean that one in another land might not be waiting to offer you a contract.

I had sent off all my manuscript and photos and illustrations and in a short time Herbs of the Northern Shaman became a reality. I got a very welcome advance of $1,000 plus a box of the books was delivered to my house. At last I was an author!

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Out of print but collectable

Now that I had "made it" this far I was soon to learn that whilst writing a book and finding a publisher are wonderful achievements, there is a lot more to becoming a success financially from being an author. Unless your book has the marketing, publicity and distribution then it isn't going to sell no matter how brilliant it might be.

Sadly Loompanics, being a small American company, had no European distributors, not only that but the big chain bookshops like Waterstone's won't accept new books unless everything goes through the right channels.

I found this out the day I confidently went into the city centre thinking that all I would have to do is walk into the big book-stores and show them copies of my book and say that I am a local author and that would be it. I thought they would welcome having the works of a local writer for sale on their shelves.

My optimism was a false hope though because I was asked if I had an account with the bookshop, if I had a distributor and if I had been in touch with their head office. I could only answer in the negative to all these, and that was the end of me getting my book in the main shops in town.

I spent months afterwards mailing potential distributors but none wanted to risk taking on the work of a new author and paying the shipping costs from the US that would be involved.

I was also contacting people and places that might review my book. My publisher was happy to send sample copies to reviewers and my book got a lot of critical acclaim this way.

Probably the best thing that happened was that Howard Marks, the best-selling author of Mr Nice, who also was successful as a public speaker and DJ, said he would be happy to help me sell my book. Howard went as far as offering to stock Herbs of the Northern Shaman alongside his own work that would be on sale on all dates on his UK tours.

This was such a fantastic offer but unfortunately I couldn't accept because I simply could not afford the shipping rates that would be needed to make this economically feasible.

I sold books via my own engagements as a public speaker at pagan festivals and suchlike and via a friend's shop.

There was never to be a second run of my books though because Loompanics was forced to close down and so my book became out of print. This swiftly resulted in crazy prices being asked for it on Amazon, eBay and elsewhere. Herbs of the Northern Shaman went from a $12 or $14.95 cover price to a whopping $150 or more because it was now a "collectable."

The original Loompanics edition, which was only printed in black and white, is still selling at these inflated prices on-line.

O-Books

This of course meant that I was back to square one but with a lot of learning experience and some great reviews to help me onward.

While looking for a new publisher my friend the photographer Katrinia Rindsberg and I came up with the plan of creating a new updated book that would include additional text as well as a whole new series of illustrative photography that she would contribute, and this time it would be in full colour. 

Eventually, after Katrinia had been able to track down all the plant species and get photos, and after her husband Ole, had used his desktop publishing skills to sort it all out into a neat book format, we self-published Herbs of the Northern Shaman on lulu.com.

Whilst this meant that my book was back in circulation it is nowhere near as good as having a 'proper' publisher and distribution. I set out again with the goal of finding one.

In January of 2009, my friend the author Philip Coppens, came over to Tenerife to investigate the pyramids here. I had a look at the book company he is published by, which is O-Books, and thought they might be interested in my work.

I got in touch and was able to use my experiences to date and contacts already made, as well as all the past reviews my book had gained, to get accepted for publication again. I am very proud to be able to announce that Herbs of the Northern Shaman  is being relaunched this September, and this time in full colour.

This time it has proper distribution and the marketing it had needed but didn't get on its first time round. Already Tesco and Waterstone's have my book on their lists.

Copyright © 2010 Steve Andrews. All Rights Reserved.

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sarmack 22 months ago

Your book looks like an excellent find! I have morning glories growing all over my back yard and didn't know that they might be useful in addition to being beautiful! Looks like the old adage, you have to spend money to make money, holds true for publishing a book. Thank God for lulu.com and hubpages!

Carol 22 months ago

Very useful information on this page Steve. People don't always realise at first how difficult it actually is to get somewhere in their chosen field, and a lot of the time, it's not what you know, more like who you know...saying that though, the amount of experience gained and lessons learned in going into a subject as complex as publishing and music, is invaluable, and no amount of education can substitute for experience. I thoroughly enjoy reading your hubs when I get the time, and I've even been encouraged by you to try growing a citrus tree in the spring next year - maybe some tangerines, as I have a massive south-facing window, which will be perfect!

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 22 months ago

Sarmack, only the Heavenly Blue, white and blue and all white (Pearly Gates) Morning Glories are any good. It hasn't cost me much in money but it has in time! lol

Thanks, Carol! Good luck with your citrus tree! I would add that it isn't even who you know that guarantees success but is possibly more about not giving up. I can think of several Welsh musicians who got to be big stars after many years of not getting their big breaks: the Stereophonics and Super Furry Animals are both in that category.

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JamaGenee Level 8 Commenter 22 months ago

Bravo, Steve! Congratulations! Waterstone's and Tesco...wow. You have indeed arrived. If the book is anything like the fascinating hubs you write about plant life on Tenerife, it cannot fail to be a huge success.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 22 months ago

Thank you, JamaGenee!

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De Greek Level 2 Commenter 22 months ago

I just got a message from Saddelerider (http://hubpages.com/profile/saddlerider1) about your hub and he was, indeed correct in being enthusiastic about it. Well done :-))

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 22 months ago

Thank you De Greek and to Saddlerider1 too for telling you!

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Teresa Schultz Level 4 Commenter 22 months ago

What a journey to get there! It took so long - I think someone really has to have the determination not to give up. You had that determination, kept going, and got your reward. Well done!

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 22 months ago

Thank you, Teresa! That's all I can do is keep on keeping on with it all!

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Earth Angel Level 3 Commenter 22 months ago

Congratulations Dearest Steve!!

Wow!! GREAT job!! It is indeed a long incubation to bring a book to life!! Like child-birth, however, the experience of pain is replaced with incredible joy!!

It just warms my heart to read of this good news!!

Blessings to you and yours always, Earth Angel!!

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 22 months ago

Thank you, Earth Angel!

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dallas93444 Level 6 Commenter 22 months ago

Thanks for sharing. I too have an "ancient book," out-of-print book. It sells from $30 - $150.00. At one time it was almost $300/copy! Since I have become "active" again and am writing another book with the "Platform" being established, the price has come down. Thanks for sharing!

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 22 months ago

Thanks for posting, Dallas!

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Karanda Level 3 Commenter 22 months ago

Good for you Steve, perseverance and determination seems to play a big part in this getting published business. I wish you much success with sales of the book.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 22 months ago

Thank you, Karanda! Sales will be most welcome!

kkalmes 22 months ago

Hello Bard, you have such determination and passion for the adventures you undertake. Thank you for the information and most of all the understanding of the due diligence that will be required.

Thumbs up and awesome (because we don't have an excellent rating choice).

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 22 months ago

Thank you again!

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jonathan t 22 months ago

Hi, Bard,

Glad you have made it into the world of publishing. that is totally cool!! i wish i could do the same -- but i guess i should write a book first, huh?? ha ha! great hub!

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 22 months ago

Thanks Jonathan! Why not start writing one?

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CJStone Level 5 Commenter 13 months ago

That's some journey Steve. Good luck with your future sales, but let me offer you one warning: no one - unless you are Stephen King or JK Rowling - makes money from books. Best selling author Ronald Hutton told me that. You publish books to make a difference, for vanity, or for the sheer hell of it, but not to make money. But it's the greatest feeling to find out several years later that you planted a thought in someone else's head, and helped to changed the world with that. Enjoy the new version. Chris.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 13 months ago

There's bound to be some money from having a book published, Chris! I made money on the first edition! Any money I make is worth having whether it is a small amount or large! But as I have so often said I would much prefer a proper job in a school for example than my writing and music career!

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lex123 Level 3 Commenter 9 months ago

I too had a somewhat similar experience like you. I recently published a fiction with a small publisher, who has no distributors. (Since the book was started long back but completed just recently I didn't want to waste my time by searching for well known publishers). I used POD method who after reviewing my book agreed to enlist for distribution with major online distributors in my country. (It is expected to start in Sept). I had also invited the Proprietor of one of the major local Bookstalls, to launch the book. In the meanwhile I got the copies of the book and distributed to few of the booksellers locally which is doing fine.

In addition, I have also published it as an ebook with smashwords, (it is included in the premium catalogue) who will distribute it to more ebook reading platforms. I'm hoping together it will work gradually.

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Bard of Ely Hub Author 9 months ago

Good luck with your work and thanks for posting!

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